Post by ed van Wijngaarden on Sept 7, 2016 18:37:05 GMT
Hi guys, Today I saw this armor and I'm interested in your opinion. Do you think this is a true myochin armor? They say the kabuto is signed "Myôchin Munehira" and dated 1375. In my opinion the kabuto, do and sode belong to this armor. Haidate, kote and suneate do, I think, not originally belong to the armor. Would it be a good buy? I think it needs some repair (lacing). Thanks in advance! Greetings, Ed
Post by ed van Wijngaarden on Sept 7, 2016 20:37:21 GMT
Hi guys, This is what they say:
JAPANESE BLACK SUIT-OF-ARMOR Price: € 11.000,00
Japanese suit-of-armor: kurozome yokohagi okegawa kon-odoshi nimaidô gosoku
(black armor with a “bucket-shaped” cuirass of horizontal plates laced in bands with dark blue cords).
dark iron egg-shaped kabuto-helmet with eight plates, three shikoro-lamellea protecting the neck, very short kuwagata-antenna and small fukigaeshi with in relief a gilded familycrest (hidari mitsudomoe). kuwagata-holder is embellished with five gilded aster-flowers. helmet has a handwritten Japanese label: “from the Eiwa Period of the Nanbokuchô Era [1375-1379], made by Myôchin Munehira”. (The Myôchin family is a famous line of yoroi-makers). black lacquered half-mask which covers all the face under the level of the eyes (menpo) and a four lamellae gorger (nodawa). two-piece cuirass (nimaidô) with horizontal lamellae laced with indigo cords has a minor restoration. cuisses (haidate) that protect the thighs consist of eight rows of karuta-metal plates laced with white cords. comes with a store-box (yoroibako) with a family crest (chigai tomoemon).
Ed, all has been already said, the Myochin didn't exsist as Ian already told you. It would be interesting seeing a picture of the mei. I also think it's a composite armor around late Edo. For a composite armor quite expensive.
The armor on your latest pictures has a Takeda like helmet, are the parts of the armor reproduction? The do looks older to me. But it's all based on this one picture.
Ed, all has been already said, the Myochin didn't exsist as Ian already told you. It would be interesting seeing a picture of the mei. I also think it's a composite armor around late Edo. For a composite armor quite expensive. The armor on your latest pictures has a Takeda like helmet, are the parts of the armor reproduction? The do looks older to me. But it's all based on this one picture.
Best regards, Mischa
Hi Mischa hereby a picture of a note written inside the kabuto!
Hi Ed, it is an attribution tag, written by somebody. "Eiwa" starts 1375 and lasted 4 years (northern court calendar!). The only "Munehira" I could find so far was dated late Edo and lived in Shônai. Good luck for your negotiations
Ed, I Think the advise here is to forgett the written tag since the date is obviously not related to the manufacturing date.
Look and examine the armor if possible and try to judge that. First question you should ask, Do I like it? If so, is the price right for this armor, that one is difficult when inexperienced.
If you have sealed the deal, well the kabuto on your trade armor was a repro so that's on the positive side.
I have sold 4 of my first armors and ses that as a learning process. I liked them when I bought them but with some basic knowledge I started to like other things.
I am sure you will be happy along the same Learning process. Ask for opinions here. Some questions for example regarding pricing could be sensitive when it is ongoing sales. Ask those kind of questions in PM.