Here is another strange feature - not only are there the kikko flaps covering the yurugi ito, but there are smaller kikko panels fastened on the inside of the waki ito that extend them upwards under the arms. I have never seen an armour with so many kikko sections applied here and there. Piers, - You are a mine of information - Kuroda family. Ian
Post by Dave Thatcher on Oct 13, 2016 21:52:19 GMT
Looks russet to me, sabi would cover the rivets.
Lots of oddball features here, all those internal ties, silk brocade on the back of plates.
Q. The tehen plug, will it pop out? Reason is I have one, i think it is used with incense when the ukebari is fumigated. Also the shikoro is designed to be strung up. Yak hair band for those anchor points behind the fukigashi, and i think you have a mon on the maedate in the form of a cross.
Without getting too excited, it may be worth noting that Kuroda Kanbei is said to have been a Christian, and so was his son Kuroda Nagamasa who became the first Kuroda Lord of Fukuoka after Sekigahara, (although Nagamasa later recanted, ie renounced his faith).
Dave, I also thought russet in the beginning but I am not sure. The Surface on, for example the mabesahi is not as smooth that you would expect from a russet kabuto. I will check again, there are some small dents I can investigate.
I agree, there are many small details that are strange. The tassels on the gessan for example is stringed through the whole gessan and can be used as a curtain being able to pull it together. Just like the shikoro. This is a high tec armor
This armor was commisioned by a samurai with way to much money Extra everything!!! Absolutely beautiful. Can't wait to be able to inspect it in person. I find that cross very intriguing. Can't find anything similar in my references. A multitude of black rice-cake kamon and cross to top it off...
Anthony, You may be interested to know the Royal Armouries has a helmet with a maedate almost the same as yours. The moveable tail and general lacquering are the same, the main differences being that the RA one has glass eyes and the interior is laquered red. RA's one is also odd in that it fits around the haraidate rather than having a piece to fit inside. Ian B
Now you have seen the parts, here is the complete gusoku.
I consider this to be a, for the period, nice en suite gosuko. I think it is late Edo, maybe in the first half or middle of the 18 hundreds. It is an armor commisioned from someone with plenty of money to spend at the time. There is a lot of effort on the details.
There are some question that we never will find the answer to.
1, The box with the text Sugawara Kodaiji Harutsuna living in Takata in Echigo province made this in 1582. We have no idea if this has any significans since there is no proof that this is the original hitsu.
2. The Nawame fukurin and butterfly hinges on the kote is this kaga work by Haruta? Or made in Echizen by Nagasone school?
3. Daves notion that the watagami looks like it could be from Momoyama/early Edo. Could it be that older parts have been used in the construction?
4. Piers info regarding the kamon; The Black rice cake 黒餅 家紋 "Kokumochi" Kamon was used most famously by the Kuroda living iin Fukuoka in Kyushu. Often a black circular spot, especially on armour, but they had white and gold versions too. Kuroda Kanbei is said to have been a Christian, and so was his son Kuroda Nagamasa who became the first Kuroda Lord of Fukuoka after Sekigahara. This will explain the cross, but the armor is not from those days, but could the kabuto be older?
Here is the armor assebled
I would like to thank everyone for valuable information and nice comments. It has been a pleasure.
Congratulations with the new pieces (and a cool crowded cellar!!)! But there is one question lingering in my head since you showed this new marvelous piece. It seems I'm the only one who remembers your promise in the second half of September to your wife and all of us (not sure in what order) that you 'would slow down for a while'. So or this was already "in the pocket", hence the promise, or you have a very short 'promise' timespan and maybe you have to lay down on you own special patient chair (probably with build in restraints etc)...
Jo p.s. hint: maybe the next acquisition should be a bigger house with bigger cellars?
Jo, this was in the pipeline before. If I said slow down, that is not the same as stop, right?
Uwe, you do not need a ticket. You are welcome always.
Actually I am out of the market right now so to say. I need to start researching my items to learn more. To make a documentation for the insurance company is also of importance. . My goal is not to buy anything until earliest mid 2017, we will se how that will work out....
I also have 2 armors from the start of my collecting, packed down, that I will sell. I am really out of space infringing on the rest of the apartement. I will have 4 armors in the armory room but I also have one in the bedroom, one in the living room and one in the hallway. Those 3 are there relaying on the mercy of my wife.
The temptation is always there but now I can enjoy seeing my brother collecting as well.
I did got an auction pad for the Ott collection though....I do not know why...There is one or two items my brother will go for, let us say that it is just for back up if his internet conection breaks down...